Tuesday, October 18, 2011

New Inductees, for an old article still available online

We have three inductees with this article.  Kennedy, Vietnam, and Oliver Stone's Big Lie - John F Kennedy.  

1.) Bruce Loebs
2.) USA Today
3.) The Society for the Advancement of Education

It's the old classic, lying while accusing someone else of lying.  Is there a Hitler reference too? But, of course!  According to Loeb, Kennedy did not plan to remove U.S. troops from Vietnam.

Here Loeb is at his stupidest, okay, he's going to denounce the plan that he thinks Schlesinger made up whilest failing to grasp what an assassination actually is, ready?

"Schlesinger wants us to believe that Kennedy decided in 1962 or early 1963 to withdraw all U.S. forces, but continued to maintain troops in South Vietnam because he feared losing the 1964 election. The unavoidable conclusion from this tale is grotesque. If Schlesinger is right, the President willfully sacrificed American lives for political profit. During the Kennedy Administration, 108 Americans died and 486 were wounded in Vietnam, and these figures increased from the time of his assassination in November, 1963, until November, 1964, after the presidential election when Schlesinger maintains Kennedy would have begun to withdraw U.S. troops."

Did you catch this one?  According to Loeb, AFTER JFK is ASSASSINATED he's still supposed to be President of the United States and still in charge of U.S. foreign policy, especially in regards to Vietnam.

Loeb, like a schmuck, doesn't comprehend that the instant JFK died LBJ became president and LBJ was in charge of U.S. foreign policy, especially in regards to Vietnam.  

So, the reason why U.S. troops weren't coming out of Vietnam between November 1963 and November 1964 and more of them were going in is because Kennedy is dead, and his withdrawl plan died with him, you idiot! 

Loeb is one of many that believe LBJ was following JFK's plans.  No.  LBJ reversed JFK's plans in Vietnam.  LBJ reversed it with 48 hours of JFK's death. The reversal is in NSAM 273.  

Loeb makes no mention of the huge black hole in the Pentagon Papers during the Fall of '63 when Kennedy and his advisors were meeting nearly everyday.

Loeb makes no mention of the Foreign Relation of the United States (FRUS) volumes released in the 1990's.

Loeb makes no reference to what was called The Thanksgiving Day Massacre where Kennedy fired people at the State Dept. and CIA who were not on board with his Vietnam policy.  Never again did anyone try to pressure Kennedy to send in combat troops into Vietnam.  

Loeb does what all extreme Right-wing losers do on this issue, they haul out Dean Rusk and Rusk's quote, "I had hundreds of talks with President Kennedy about Vietnam and on no single occasion did he ever express to me any ideas on that line." He adds that "Kennedy never said anything like that to me, and we discussed Vietnam--oh, I'd say hundreds of times. He never said it, never suggested it, never hinted at it, and I simply do not believe it."

If you will look at NSAM 263 you will find that the very first person it goes to,  before the Secretary of Defense, or any of the Joint Chiefs is... Dean Rusk.  So, Dean Rusk was lying.   

Loeb does not mention that JFK fired Walt Rostow, that Rostow was sent out to pasture for a year, and after Kennedy was assassinated LBJ brought him back in.  

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